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Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010, 01:30 pm
TCU?

There are reports that TCU will join the Big East after the 2011-12 season, in part to improve its own access to the BCS. I might be remembering something incorrectly, but isn't it possible that the Big East will lose its tie-in if next season unfolds like this one?

Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010 06:34 pm (UTC)
spherulitic

The important question is, how does this affect the basketball conference?

Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010 06:39 pm (UTC)
sr_orangepants

I'm wondering if the Big East is trying to find another member to even things out. Or say adios to, like, DePaul.

Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010 06:55 pm (UTC)
lordiceman

The Big East stopped being a relevant football conference after it was raided by the ACC last time, but this is a pretty interesting move. The conference had recently announced its intention to add 2 football teams. Aside from TCU, UCF and Villanova (moving up from FCS) were considered likely candidates.

The Big East was already unwieldy at 16. 17 is beyond ridiculous... and going on 18? I've thought for years that an eventual split between the football and non-football members is inevitable. I don't see what the non-football members have in common with the rest anymore.

OTOH, I get the sense that the football conference is teetering on the edge, bracing against being raided yet again... there's the constant rumors of the Big Ten going after Syracuse, Pitt and/or Rutgers.

Conference jumping/realignment is always about football. The impact on other sports is just an afterthought.

Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010 07:06 pm (UTC)
lordiceman

Boise State looks like a program caught with its pants down here. When they jumped to the MWC, it looked like a strong move to a solid league... a league that looked better than the Big East. Since then:

Utah joined the Pac-10(12)
BYU went independent
TCU joined the Big East

Oh, and the MWC went and invited Boise's former/current WAC rivals - Nevada, Fresno St & Hawaii, to replace the ones that left. So Boise State really ends up in an MWC that is only moderately stronger than the league it's leaving behind. It's hard to imagine where Boise could upgrade from there. It's not like the Pac-12 or Big 12 are calling anytime soon.

Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
sr_orangepants

This sort of brings me back to the original question I have. Big East football is awful this year. If the BCS is evaluating which conferences merit qualifying status based on 2008-11, the Big East could be out with another season like this one, couldn't it? Then TCU would be equally caught with its pants down.

Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010 08:56 pm (UTC)
lordiceman

Yeah, that's a fair point, but I've seen nothing to suggest that's happening anytime soon. Lots of fans & media saying it should happen, but little more. I wouldn't mind a provision that an automatic qualifier league must have a team in the top 15 or 20.

The BCS boils my blood. End this nonsense and have a goddamn playoff already. When will the NCAA and its membership wake up and realize how badly it is being fleeced by the BCS? A D1 football playoff would be the hugest thing ever. They're leaving $billions on the table by continuing to let the bowls run the show. It's just insane to continue with the status quo.

Mon, Nov. 29th, 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
dugy1001

huh, i saw talk of this a while back but it seemed to fizzle out. surprised to see the news today. if i remember correctly the big east would be able to use tcu's performance as part of their evaluation, which might allow them to keep that automatic qualifier status.